From Robert G. Nooning Sr., 6-4-2007
Lucy Dorothy Farrell Groome was quite the character when I knew her. As a child of 6, 7, and 8 years old I used to walk over to her home, especially during early afternoon in the Summer. When I would arrive, she would drop everything and spend the afternoon with me.
Generally, we would play cards. She taught me most of the poker games that I know today, along with 500 rummy. I suspect that she left me win more often then I should have.
Then there were the days that she would show me the old family photographs, and the coin collection of my grandfather, William Clair Groome. I was never to tell grandpa Groome that she showed me his collection. That was a secret between us that I never broke. Many of the photos I now have in my collection, passed down via her daughter, my mother, Mary Antonina Groome Nooning Aiello. Lucy would tell me stories about her father and mother, as well as her brothers and sisters.
The story that sticks out the most in my mind is that Lucy told me that her mother was Alice Yingling. She explained that her grandmother, Mary Whelan, was widowed, and ran a boarding house in Clearfield County, Houtzdale, PA. She had Alice out of wedlock and she went by the name Alice Yingling. Lucy also explained that Alice had a very poor opinion of men in general all of her life as a result. Her mother, Alice Yingling, married John Francis Farrell. Her father John, was from County Waterford, Ireland. His parents, supposedly were John Francis Farrell Sr., and Margaret Begley, both from Ireland. It is unknown if the family came together or not. The 1900 Census record has 1872 as the immigration year for John Francis Farrell. He would have been age 15-17 at the time. In 1900 he answered the question Naturalized, as no.
(Note from William Clair Groome Jr., b. 6-1918 to Robert G. Nooning Sr., 12-16-2007. Am sure that my grandfather Farrell was born in Waterford County. My mother spoke often of this. Alice was the name of his wife--my grandmother. They did live in Philadelphia then moved to Houtzdale, PA).Although the official family history seems to contradict the story of Alice, it is interesting that this family story was also told to other family members and passed down. Notably, from Barbara Gene Groome Warden. What we know for sure is that all official Census records, 1900 and 1910, lists her name as Mary or Mary A., not Alice. Her mother was definitely Mary A. Whelan AEB a letter to Mary from her mother signed Mary A. Whelan, dated September 29th, 1886. The A. in Mary’s name may have been Alice or Ann, she may have gone by Alice, but on official documents found so far she is listed as Mary or Mary A.
I have in the family tree what I believe are the parents of Mary A. Whelan Farrell. They are the 1860 and 1880 records. The entry has been made for the following reasons.
The John Francis Farrell family had a connection in the Philadelphia area. Their youngest child James, was born in Philadelphia and that’s where they lived in the 1900 Census. Delaware County, is located next to Philadelphia County. Located in Delaware County was a family with Martin Whelan, with the wife Mary, and a daughter Mary A. Whelan. This Mary A. Whelan matched the birth year and birth place of our Mary A. Whelan. There was nothing in the Census records in 1860, 1870, or 1880, that even came close to a match for this family in all of the United States.
Delaware County to Clearfield County, Houtzdale, PA, must have been quite a trip back in 1886. No cars, buses, etc. It would have been by horse and buggy to probably a train station. I will speculate that the letter of 1886, previously mentioned, was written out of respect and concern that she arrived back home safely. If Mary A. Whelan, the mother of Mary A. Whelan Farrell, lived in Houtzdale, Pa, where her daughter lived, there would be no need for a “arrived home safe” letter.Well, Back to Lucy. On my visits to Lucy, she inevitably made me what she called a “black cow.” This consisted of vanilla ice cream with root beer. She also called it a root beer float, but mostly referred to it as a black cow.
I remember going to church once with my grandmother Lucy when I was about 8 years old. Once! It turned out to be the stations of the cross and lasted from 12pm to 3pm at Easter time at St. James Church in Wilkinsburg, PA. Boy, was I surprised. I thought it was going to just be a regular Mass. I was even more surprised when Lucy started to sing. If you have ever been to church, and heard one voice over all of the others loud and clear, that was my grandmother Lucy. I don’t think that Lucy ever hit so much as one note the entire time, but it didn’t phase her a bit. She liked to sing, so by God she sang her lungs out. The fact that the immediately surrounding people backed away, and the other people were staring, didn’t bother her one single bit. As a child of 8, I couldn’t appreciate at the time the implications for her unique personality, and what made Lucy, Lucy. I just wanted to melt away. I was horrified and embarrassed beyond belief. Looking back on it, I wish now that I could have appreciated it more and had a good time with it. Barbara Gene Groome Warner had the same experience.
I have two stories about when Lucy moved to Florida. The first is her teeth. Apparently, her false teeth had been bothering her for some time. Finally, while stuck in traffic over the Peace River, between Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte, she got out of the car, took out her teeth, and chucked them into the Peace River. She supposedly remarked, “Well, I guess I have to get a new set of teeth now”.
The second story is when she first moved to Florida. She noticed 3 people crossing her lawn. She opened the window and hollered out to the total strangers, “do you need a forth for bridge”? As it turned out, they did! So started the social life of Lucy Farrell Groome in Florida.
Lucy Dorothy Farrell Groome was a great lady. She was full of life and an extrovert. She had a great influence on me as a child. I loved her very much. My greatest regret is that I was not informed about her passing and burial until after the fact. I can tell everyone that I was a little more then upset. I would have jumped through hoops to do whatever I could have done to be there to pay my last respects. I would have been there had I known.
Lucy Dorothy Farrell Groome remarried Lyle Wilson at I believe, age 80. She passed as Lucy D. Wilson.
1900 Census, Philadelphia, PA, name spelled Farell, instead of Farrell, and Lucy as Louisa.
Mary had 8 children, 7 living. The hard to read name is believed to be Patrick.Lucy in 1930 Federal Census with William C. Groome is listed as Lugay Groome instead of Lucy. There was a penmanship error on the original 1930 Census with her name, and this error was later transcribed as Lugay Groome instead of Lucy Groome. After looking at the original Census record, it is clear how the mistake was made.
Also in the 1930 Census, Lucy listed her fathers birthplace as the Irish Free State.
Lucy Dorothy Farrell Groome had an Uncle Charles and Aunt Tillie. It is unknown if it was the Farrell or Groome side.
Lucy WILSON
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1891
Death Date: Jun 1982
Social Security Number: 267-41-5508
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Florida
Death Residence Localities ZIP Code: 33952 Localities:
Port Charlotte, Charlotte, Florida Punta Gorda, Charlotte, Florida
The following information as told to Robert G. Nooning Sr. came from John E. Groome at his home in Harrisburg, PA around 1981. Jennie Hannah Grimes had brothers James, Gus, and sister Sally who married a Reinart or Reinhart. End of information from John E. Groome.
Entry by Robert G. Nooning Sr 7-10-2007
I received a letter back from the Blair County Historical Society on 7-9-2007 with the following information. In the 1860 Census, living next door to the Glesson’s in Cambria County, Summerhill, PA, on page 468, was a Francis Grimes, and seem to be the only Grimes in the neighborhood. After verifying the Census record, the Grimes were indeed living next door to the Glesson’s. They were absent in the 1870 Census, and someone else was living where the Grimes had been. The data entered for this Grimes family is from the 1860 Census record, and a record from the Saint Augustine Catholic Cemetery. It is not positive identification of the parents of Jeannie Hannah and James Grimes. It matches Jennie Hannah's Census records that her father was from Ireland, and the mother born in PA.My belief is that Susan Grimes passed away from possibly complications of childbirth, and her husband, Francis, being 19 years older, was unable to care for the younger children. Jennie Hannah Grimes was born in 1867, and Francis would have been 49 years old.
Entry by Robert G. Nooning Sr 7-19-2007
I received the following letter from The Cambria County Historical Society verifying my beliefs about Francis Grimes. The following information is verbatim from that letter.Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones CuratorJennie, at age 3, was found living with the Glesson's in the 1870 Census, Summerhill, Cambria County, PA and at age 13 with the Glesson's in the 1880 Census, Portage, Cambria County, PA.
There is a picture of James Grimes, Hannah's brother, in his military uniform and it was identified by John E. Groome in 1981.
The following information as told to Robert G. Nooning Sr. came from John E. Groome at his home in Harrisburg, PA around 1981. Jennie Hannah Grimes had brothers James, Gus, and sister Sally who married a Reinart or Reinhart. End of information from John E. Groome.
Entry by Robert G. Nooning Sr 7-10-2007
I received a letter back from the Blair County Historical Society on 7-9-2007 with the following information. In the 1860 Census, living next door to the Glesson’s in Cambria County, Summerhill, PA, on page 468, was a Francis Grimes, and seem to be the only Grimes in the neighborhood. After verifying the Census record, the Grimes were indeed living next door to the Glesson’s. They were absent in the 1870 Census, and someone else was living where the Grimes had been. The data entered for this Grimes family is from the 1860 Census record, and a record from the Saint Augustine Catholic Cemetery. It is not positive identification of the parents of Jeannie Hannah and James Grimes. It matches Jennie Hannah's Census records that her father was from Ireland, and the mother born in PA.My belief is that Susan Grimes passed away from possibly complications of childbirth, and her husband, Francis, being 19 years older, was unable to care for the younger children. Jennie Hannah Grimes was born in 1867, and Francis would have been 49 years old.
Entry by Robert G. Nooning Sr 7-19-2007
I received the following letter from The Cambria County Historical Society verifying my beliefs about Francis Grimes. The following information is verbatim from that letter.Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones Curator
It is believed that Francis Grimes is a son of Francis Grimes, b. 1818, from a previous unknown marriage.
The following information as told to Robert G. Nooning Sr. came from John E. Groome at his home in Harrisburg, PA around 1981. Jennie Hannah Grimes had brothers James, Gus, and sister Sally who married a Reinart or Reinhart. End of information from John E. Groome.
Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones Curator
James Grimes for some reason is not found on the Census records. He is on the baptism record, and a picture of James Grimes, Hannah's brother, in his military uniform was identified by John E. Groome in 1981. Since he was in the military, he may have left home in Cambria County around age 18.
The following information as told to Robert G. Nooning Sr. came from John E. Groome at his home in Harrisburg, PA around 1981. Jennie Hannah Grimes had brothers James, Gus, and sister Sally who married a Reinart or Reinhart. End of information from John E. Groome.
Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones Curator
Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones Curator
Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones Curator
Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones Curator
1880 United States Federal Census about Sady Grimes
Name: Sady Grimes
Home in 1880: Croyle, Cambria, Pennsylvania PO, Summerhill, PA
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to head-of-household: Niece
Father's birthplace: Ireland
Mother's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Occupation: Keeping House
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members: Name Age
John Neff 50
Sady Grimes 16Names seen for Sally are Sarah and Sady. Baptism record as follows in Latin.
Baptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA
GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762Cambria County Historical Society
615 North Center Street
E O. Box 278 Ebensburg, Pennsylvania 15931
Telephone: 814-472-6674
www.cambriacountyhistorical.com
A. W Buck House - 1889, Center and Highland
E-maiLinfo@cambriacountyhistorical.comJuly 12, 2007
Robert G. Nooning
P.O. Box 410423
Melbourne, FL 32941-0423Dear Mr. Nooning,
Regarding your recent Research Request for information on Jennie Hannah Grimes:
1. The marriage license application for Jennie H. Grimes and John P. Groom states that Francis Grimes is Jennie's parent. Marriage took place at Wilmore, PA. Copy of marriage application is enclosed.
2. With above information, I checked the 1860 Census and found Francis Grimes (age 42) living in Summerhill Township. He was a farmer, born in Ireland, married to Susan (age 23) born in PA. Also in household: Mary J. (3), Elizabeth C. (2), Matilda A. (5 mo), and Francis Grimes (16), farm laborer. Copy enclosed.
3. Because Jennie Hannah and John were married in Wilmore, and that is a Catholic area, I consulted Catholic Vital Records of Central Pennsylvania, a five volume set of books containing Catholic record transcriptions from 1793-1869. First, I found the 1867 birth of Hannah Grimes, confirming that Francis Grimes and Susan Crum were her parents. I then checked for other children of Francis and Susan. Most of these entries use the Latin forms of names. An explanation is enclosed. Marriage record of Francis Grimes and Susan Crum also included. In addition, I found a birth record for Susan Crum and a marriage record for her parents. All are included.
4. 1870 Census Summerhill Township shows Francis Grimes with same children from 1860 but no wife, Susan. Copy enclosed. My guess is that she died, although I found no record to confirm that.
5. 1880 Census White Township shows Francis Grimes married to Bridget. 17 year old son named Augustus. This is probably son Daniel A. who was named in 1870 Census. Copy enclosed.
6. 1886 obituary for Francis Grimes and reading of St. Augustine Cemetery showing burial of Francis Grimes. Copies enclosed.
7. You mentioned that Hannah had a sister Sally and the baptismal records show a sister Sarah. I found Sarah in the 1870 Census, Croyle Township. Copy enclosed.
8. 1880 Census, Croyle Township, listing for Sady (Sally or Sarah) Grimes.
As you can see, it does not appear that Hannah was orphaned. Rather my guess is that her mother died and the younger children were "farmed out." Her father appears to have remarried (probably around 1871, by age of daughter Bridget in 1880 Census). I hope you find this information helpful. I may be able to find more information on Hannah's family given more time.CATHOLIC VITAL RECORDS OF CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA 1793-1869
BY REV. ALBERT H. LEDOUX
Marriages of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, Summit, PA
1. GRIMES, Franciscum m. 04-29-1852 Susannam Johannam Crum
wi: Gullielmus Herlly/Bridgitta Clarke Clergy: Joseph A. Gallagher VOLUME 3 - #4443 - page 195Marriages of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Elias (parents omitted) m. 05-05-1835 Anna WELSH (parents omitted) wi: omitted Clergy: Demetrius Augustine GallitzinBaptisms of St. Bartholomew, Wilmore, PA :
2. GRIMES, Hannam Sarah (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 01-08 bp. 04-20-1867 gp: Neal Dugan/Birgitta Raney Clergy:John Hackett Volumes, page 165, #38373. GRIMES, Seram (Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 02-27 bp. 03-20-1865 gp: Philippus Kearns/Maria Margaretta Kearns Clergy: John Hackett Volumes, page 162, #3762
4. GRIMES, Augustinum ( Francisco/Susanna Jane Crum) b. 30-29 bp. 04-27-1862 gp: Joanne Neff/Seragh Milligan Clergy: John Hackett Volume 4, page 253, #5513
5. GRIMES, Matildam Annam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-16 bp. 02-26-1860 gp: Jacobus Skelly/Susanna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 249, # 5423
6. GRIMES, Elizabethan! Catherinam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 03-05 bp. 04-04-1858 gp: Joannes Fitzpatrick/Anna Neff Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 4, page 245, #5343
7. GRIMES, Mariam Johannam (Francisco/Susanna Crum) b. 01-28 bp. 02-10-1856 gp: Laurentius Cassidy/Maria Reily Clergy: Thomas J. Walsh Volume 3, page 278, #6098
8. GRIMES, Petrum (Francisco/Susan J. Crum) b. 10-12 bp. 11-01-1854 gp: Thomas McConnell/ Maria Neff Clergy: Michael J. Mitchell Volume 3, page 274, #6035
9. GRIMES, Agnete Eleanoram (Francisco/Susanna J. Crum) b. 07-30 bp. 08-14-1853 gp: Michaele Keating/Maria E. Crum Clergy: Tobias Mullen Volume 3, page 271, #5962
Baptisms of St. Michael's Loretto, PA
1. CRUM, Susanna (Eliae/Annae) b. 02-14 bp. 02-24-1836
gp: Carolus Brady/Eleanora Skelly d. deceased Philippus Clergy:Terrence McGirr Volume 1, page 122, #02584Contact me if I can be of further assistance: awbuck(@verizon.net
Sincerely, Kathy Jones Curator
There may have been more children in this marriage. It has not been researched.
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS NOT VERIFIED AS OF 5-20-2007
The following is a very possible Hagadorn link to Bessie B. Hagadorn. Listed here is a Florena, age 8. Bessie B. had a sister Florence, and there is family history to indicate that she was a twin of Bessie. If this is true, the age of Florena of 8, abt 1872, is a 1 year off match for Bessie B. birthdate of 2-19-1873. Father’s place of birth is a match with 1920 Census, the mother is not.Bessie B. missing for unknown reason.
1880 United States Federal Census about Daniel Hagadorn
Name: Daniel Hagadorn
Home in 1880: Troy, Rensselaer, New York
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birthplace: New York
Relation to head-of-household: Son
Father's birthplace: New York
Mother's name: Sally
Mother's birthplace: Massachusetts
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Butcher
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male Household Members:
Name
Age Sally Hagadorn 74 (Widow)
Daniel Hagadorn 49
Mary C. Hagadorn 31
Chester D. Hagadorn 10
Florena A. Hagadorn 8
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS NOT VERIFIED AS OF 5-20-2007
The following is a very possible Hagadorn link to Bessie B. Hagadorn. Listed here is a Florena, age 8. Bessie B. had a sister Florence, and there is family history to indicate that she was a twin of Bessie. If this is true, the age of Florena of 8, abt 1872, is a 1 year off match for Bessie B. birthdate of 2-19-1873. Father’s place of birth is a match with 1920 Census, the mother is not.Bessie B. missing for unknown reason.
1880 United States Federal Census about Daniel Hagadorn
Name: Daniel Hagadorn
Home in 1880: Troy, Rensselaer, New York
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birthplace: New York
Relation to head-of-household: Son
Father's birthplace: New York
Mother's name: Sally
Mother's birthplace: Massachusetts
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Butcher
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male Household Members:
Name
Age Sally Hagadorn 74 (Widow)
Daniel Hagadorn 49
Mary C. Hagadorn 31
Chester D. Hagadorn 10
Florena A. Hagadorn 8
THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS NOT VERIFIED AS OF 5-20-2007
The following is a very possible Hagadorn link to Bessie B. Hagadorn. Listed here is a Florena, age 8. Bessie B. had a sister Florence, and there is family history to indicate that she was a twin of Bessie. If this is true, the age of Florena of 8, abt 1872, is a 1 year off match for Bessie B. birthdate of 2-19-1873. Father’s place of birth is a match with 1920 Census, the mother is not.Bessie B. missing for unknown reason.
1880 United States Federal Census about Daniel Hagadorn
Name: Daniel Hagadorn
Home in 1880: Troy, Rensselaer, New York
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Birthplace: New York
Relation to head-of-household: Son
Father's birthplace: New York
Mother's name: Sally
Mother's birthplace: Massachusetts
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Butcher
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male Household Members:
Name
Age Sally Hagadorn 74 (Widow)
Daniel Hagadorn 49
Mary C. Hagadorn 31
Chester D. Hagadorn 10
Florena A. Hagadorn 8
The family story is that her father was adopted by the Wylam family but didn't find out about it until later in life after he was married and had children. He found out that his real surname was Taylor and changed the family name back to Taylor from Wylam between 1910 and 1916.
Census records do not match with the above family story. Data entered for Thomas Taylor and Mary Segalini family is from the 1900 Census in Houtzdale, PA and 1910 Census in Houtzdale, PA.
The Census records do not tell why the children, at least with Margaret S., has the birth certificate as Margaret Wylam, with parents Thomas and Mary Wylam. The baptism record names are the same for Margaret S.
Spelling of Segaline used in newspaper article about Eileen Taylor's wedding.
The Taylor family plot is in Calvary Cemetery, it is ½ Lot 447 Section “S”. (From Catherine Zacher Lombardi to Robert G. Nooning Sr.
Data calculated from the 1930 Federal Census under Mary Taylor as head of household
The family story is that her father was adopted by the Wylam family but didn't find out about it until later in life after he was married and had children. He found out that his real surname was Taylor and changed the family name back to Taylor from Wylam between 1910 and 1916.
Census records do not match with the above family story. Data entered for Thomas Taylor and Mary Segalini family is from the 1900 Census in Houtzdale, PA and 1910 Census in Houtzdale, PA
The Census records do not tell why the children, at least with Margaret S., has the birth certificate as Margaret Wylam, with parents Thomas and Mary Wylam. The baptism record names are the same for Margaret S.
Malcolm H. Nooning Jr. was the source of a lot of the old family history. His grandfather, William Wallace Sr. lived with him when MH Nooning was a teenager. Martha A. and May Margaret would have been William's siblings, and MH Nooning Jr's great aunts. His memory included Martha A being married to a Hull, and May Margaret being married to a Bellamy.
1880 Census Saratoga County, Wilton, New York
Orson Bellemy 30 Spelling should be Bellamy
Sarah M. Bellemy 26
Edward O. Bellemy 10
Arthur Bellemy 9
Lillian Bellemy 6
Waltie Bellemy 3
George Fowler 73 Father in Law to Orson Bellemy1900 Federal Census in Troy, NY under Bellumay.
1910 United States Federal Census Rennselaer County, Troy, NY
Arthur T Bellamy 38
Myrtie M Bellamy 33
Ralph E Bellamy 9
Malcolm H. Nooning Jr. was the source of a lot of the old family history. His grandfather, William Wallace Sr. lived with him when MH Nooning was a teenager. Martha A. and May Margaret would have been William's siblings, and MH Nooning Jr's great aunts. His memory included Martha A. being married to a Hull, and May Margaret being married to a Bellamy.
Mertie or Myrtie was the nickname for May Margaret Nooning.
1900 Federal Census in Troy, NY under Bellumay. Age is 26 which matches all birth records. However, this Census for some unknown reason has her marked as being born in IL. All other records for birth are NY. 1910 Census has Mertie M. and Arthur Bellamy in Rennselaer County, Troy, NY. Birth place again is IL for May Margaret (Mertie).
1910 United States Federal Census Rennselaer County, Troy, NY
Arthur T Bellamy 38
Myrtie M Bellamy 33
Ralph E Bellamy 9
Laura Turpin marriage has not been verified. It was information given to Robert G. Noonig Sr. in 1983 from Agnes Virginia Vallee Perras. George Malcolm Nooning Jr. was the uncle of Agnes Virginia Vallee Perras.
1900 Troy Census
Surname First Relation Age Born Father Mother Yrs US Occupation Ward Page Address
Nooning George A son 11 NY NY NY at school 9 76a 400R 4th St
WW1 Draft Card from 1917-1918 This may or may not be George Malcolm Nooning Jr. from the Nooning Family Tree, but being born in Troy, NY comes pretty close. This record is here as a reference.
Name: Malcom Nooning
City: Not Stated
County: Bayfield
State: Wisconsin
Birthplace: Troy, New York;
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1894
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1685063
Laura Turpin marriage has not been verified. It was information given to Robert G. Nooning Sr. in 1983 from Agnes Virginia Vallee Perras. George Malcolm Nooning was the uncle of Agnes Virginia Vallee Perras.